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'cause I could REALLY use some rest! :lol: Yesterday was fun, but very very very tiring. Still, the kids got to spend time with Granny and Papaw, they got to spend time with the kids, and the kids got to spend the Grands' money. :lol: and :wince: Herself cleaned out the bead store, while Himself was more restrained....good day.

There's a LOT of kerfluffle going on about what the Duck Dynasty dude said. I don't watch DD; we don't have any sort of cable/satellite/dish, so it's local stations and whatever the PBS app has for us, but......I don't get the kerfluffle. From what I understand, the DD guys are all professed chrischuns, so....why the surprise that he actually *believes* what the Bible SAYS?

Here's the deal: YOU profess to be a Christian. Logically, this means that:

1. You profess to follow the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ. Right? Therefore

2. You profess to follow what the Bible SAYS, because 95% of what Jesus is quoted as saying was quoted DIRECTLY from the Torah; therefore

3. The Bible says that homosexuality is a sin.

LOGICALLY, then....you, by professing to be a Christian are saying the EXACT SAME THING. IF you turn around and say, "Wait, um, no - I don't believe that. Jesus said to love everybody!"...um. You're missing the point.

Let's go back to basics here. (This is for "believers" - if you profess to be a NON-believer, then carry on and skip this, OK? Because it does not apply to *you*.) Jesus IS the Word, and the Word IS God. That's pretty basic. God laid out the Torah (that's "Bible" to you Believers - I'll get to the NT in a minute.) to tell Believers HOW to live. Jesus came and QUOTED the Torah - He led a Torah-observant and -obedient life (the only human to actually live a Torah-obidient life, if we're being honest here!). He pointed out sin and moved on, leaving it up to the sinner to either repent or not.

Now....Torah says that homosexuality is abomination. It's a SIN. Right? Jesus Himself said (in Matt. 5:17-20):
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the Torah, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the Torah, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.


Got that? He DID NOT abolish the Torah (sometimes translated as "law", which isn't quite correct) - He came to Fulfill it. And so far, the only fulfillment has been to the sacrificial system (His sacrifice was "once and done", so no need to keep sacrificing animals.). Got that?

Therefore...the rest of the Torah is STILL in effect. We STILL are supposed to follow it.

Now, some folks claim that Paul said that no, Torah is gone now. Um.....care to quote that? Because....first off, Paul IS NOT God, and can NOT throw out a God-thing. Paul never even physically met Jesus, and to claim that he said something Jesus didn't is...well, it's crazy. And WRONG. (The animals-on-a-sheet-thing that keeps getting dragged out to "prove" the eating laws are gone....yeah. No. Read the verses AFTER the vision, where Paul himself explains that it wasn't about what's for dinner, it was about *people*. NON-Jews, to be exact - God made them just like He made the Jews, and they needed to hear about Jesus too.)

(And, umm...this applies to the whole chrismess tree debacle, too. Yeah, God made trees....He also made bunnies and eggs. Does this mean I can celebrate the Easter Bunny? No. God made, but man perverted. A question: If having a chrismess tree is really OK per Torah, why is everyone so defensive when it comes to discussing them? Because.....everyone is; I'll read maybe 1 post a year about them then NOTHING, because...I dunno. Maybe because they know, deep down, that it's profane but they don't want to give up a human tradition? We threw our tree out years ago - it was HARD. It's still hard to walk around and see all the pretty trees and lights, but.....they're pagan. Profane. We're not to mix. :sigh:)

Anyway. Back to the point. The DD dude is simply trying to live his life according to his beliefs. Why are folks so upset/pissed/surprised by this? The Bible says homosexuality IS a sin....why is so upsetting that he simply quoted that? (This is rhetorical; I know the answer.)

All the chrischun churches that are embracing homosexuals? Are - to be blunt - in direct conflict with the Book they claim is their foundation document. Bottom line - it IS a sin. No, I don't hate gays - I have my own sins to worry about, and honestly don't have the time nor the energy to bash someone for theirs. The people that are up in arms over the DD dude's statements? IF they really are chrischun, they might want to take another look at their Bible......:sigh:

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Date:December 22nd, 2013 12:29 am (UTC)

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It's not even like that - he didn't say anything negative on the TV show - he was in a magazine interview. Honestly I think they are finding something stupid to blow out of proportion so people will overlook the Affordable Healthcare fiasco or the troops headed to Sudan or a bunch of other stupid things - if all the lukewarm believers are all worried over Phil (and honestly the Duck Commander family seems completely unfazed) then no one will notice all the crap happening in the real world.
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