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Man, the people on a dairy goat forum I lurk on are very, very militant about goats. I mean, I asked about milking Cashmeres - a valid question, yes? - and got slammed (politely, but still slammed) over "oh, no - you want a REAL dairy goat! NOT cashmere!" and on and on and on. :shakes head:

What makes this even funnier? I googled "milking + cashmere" and got....quite a few hits on people who are actually, y'know, MILKING thier Cashmere goats! And - gasp! - DRINKING the milk!

I tell ya, this is more fun than tossing the "single treadle is better than double!" into a flock of spinners (or "circs are better than DPNs!" into a whack of knitters) :lol:

Here's the deal - all female goats have udders. They all get milk. So.....why not *use* that milk? Granted, we won't get the quantity (maybe) from a Cashmere that we would from a goat bred for dairy use...but a) this is a backyard, homesteading operation, NOT a commercial dairy; b) we only need 2 gallons a *week* for drinking purposes (and....Nubians traditionally give 1 gallon A DAY - we have 2 coming!); c) the "excess" will become cheese/soap/butter/ice cream/baked goods.

Seriously - if I wanted a massive amount of milk, I'd go with 3 Nubians, tops (or Alpines, Toggenburgs, Saanens, or La Manchas). They would give us, in low estimates, 1.5 gallons a day (that's figuring .5 gallon PER GOAT.) - we have 6 goats coming. 2 are Nubian - small, yes, but that shouldn't affect output - the other 4 are Cashmere (well, 1 is a cross). If we get .5 gallon a day per goat, that's still *3 freaking gallons* a day. :boggle: MORE than enough for what we want to do.

:deep breath: I just - those folks are kinda nutty. They seem to be more concerned with quantity per goat in a commercial sort of sense than what we are looking for/at.

Wow - I needed to get that out of my system, I think. :lol: How's the weather out there? It was 95 yesterday - the pool was a balmy 90*. PERFECT for cooling off in. Today it's forcasted to be 100*....this is only June. I am NOT looking forward to August......
Plus, Nubians don't have spinnable fiber.......:hehehehehehehehehe:
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From:(Anonymous)
Date:June 16th, 2009 01:21 pm (UTC)

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man, sometimes I wished I lived closer to you. I loves me good goat cheese, if you ever thought of selling some.

my chickens are getting so cute, even though they are bigger. they have personalities now, and the feathers are getting really pretty. my black australorps have a blue tinge on their feathers that I've love to capture in yarn dyeing. I might have to try that!

karen
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From:fiberaddict
Date:June 16th, 2009 01:30 pm (UTC)

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Glad you're back!

We're not planning on selling cheese...but ya never know. :grin: And, not to enable you or anything, but you can make cheese at home using store-bought (pastuerised) goat's milk...:whistles innocently: There's some videos on YouTube showing how, as a matter of fact...:whistles louder:
From:(Anonymous)
Date:June 16th, 2009 02:05 pm (UTC)

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really? I can make cheese from store goats milk? do I need special equipment????

and I've always been here, I faithfully read you every day, even if I don't comment. if it's easier to answer my question on goats milk via email, my email is jkberg94@Frontier.com
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Date:June 16th, 2009 02:09 pm (UTC)

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I just googled it -- looks way to easy.

http://www.gomestic.com/Cooking/How-to-Make-Goat-Milk-Cheese.60610

there's gotta be a catch, no?
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From:fiberaddict
Date:June 16th, 2009 02:15 pm (UTC)

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No, no catch to it - to make quick 'n' easy soft cheese, you need 1 qt goats milk, 1/4 cup (I think) vinegar, and whatever herbs. Pour the milk into a pot (stainless or enamel), bring to a slow boil, add the vinegar (regular distilled works better than rice vinegar, just FYI :lol:), stir, pull off the heat, put muslin (cheesecloth is too holey) in a colander, and either spoon the mix in (better) or dump it and let it drain (faster, but you lose some curd).

When it's all drained (takes a bit), add herbs, and either eat or refrigerate. :grin:

Hard cheese takes a bit more work and supplies....if you go to www.hoeggergoatsupply.com and search for "Cheesemakers Pantry", you'll see a kit with the basics for hard cheese. We haven't tried that...yet. :grin:
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Date:June 16th, 2009 02:53 pm (UTC)

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thank you, as always, for your kind assistance.

karen
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From:psychemarlies
Date:June 17th, 2009 01:25 am (UTC)
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We raised goats for years.

Toggenburg milk = YUCKY!
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From:fiberaddict
Date:June 17th, 2009 09:58 am (UTC)
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Really? Thanks - they're not raised much around here, so I haven't been able to find out much about the milk. The goat forum....well, if it's THEIR goat, the milk is FANTASTIC and your goat's sucks and and and...:lol:

We went with Nubians for 2 reasons - the "Star Wars" connection (Ep 1, in Watto's junkyard, when Qui Gon is trying to get into the Pod Race. :lol:) and the higher butterfat. We'll see how it goes...
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