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From:hugh_mannity
Date:January 10th, 2010 04:35 pm (UTC)
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You mean "yardage/pound" not "weight/pound" because they all have 16 ounces to a pound.

9 st/in on #3? That's insane. That's not a sweater, that's a suit of armour! Is there a Ravelry group for it?

I suggest you get 1 ball of the yarn you're thinking of using and another in a lighter weight and swatch. :D
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From:fiberaddict
Date:January 10th, 2010 05:25 pm (UTC)
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Yeah - what I should have said - "original yarn = 245 y/100g; Gloss DK = 246 y/100g. Somehow, I don't think the 1 yard per 100g will make a difference. :lol:


Pulling out the pattern....it says "Needles: 3mm (US 2)". Gauge (excuse me, Tension :lol:) "36 stitches and 42 rows to 10 cm, measured over chart B" 10 cm = 4", right? So....36/4 = 9 stitches/inch.

I think there are 12 of these in progress on Ravelry. A few are using the "correct" yarn (I refuse to send her my $$$), 1 used Louet Gems, 1 is using Brown Sheep's Naturespun sport (on 2.75 mm needles, if I'm not mistaken!).....and those yarns aren't as close to the yardage/g as the KnitPicks Gloss DK!

I've been mulling over using something like Palette - I can get 9 sts/inch on size 2s or 3s EASILY. I'm just wondering if yarn that fine would make me want to poke my eyes out before I'm done. :sigh:
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From:hugh_mannity
Date:January 10th, 2010 06:14 pm (UTC)
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I just remembered that I've got a Gansey in progress (since 1986, IIRC). I'm using 2.5mm needles (old UK ones) and getting a gauge over double moss stitch of 28st/4in (7st/1in). The yarn label doesn't give yardage, but the website for Emu (now Wendy) yarns gives it as: 224 metres per 100g ball ~~ Needles: 2.25 - 3mm ( US 1 - 3 ) ~~ Tension: 36 rows x 28 sts.

I'm guessing that's gauge over stockinette (or tension over stocking stitch) so my gauge over double moss stitch is going to be pretty close to that. The yarns are fairly similar -- the guernsey yarn is a 5-ply so a bit heavier per yard than a 2 or 3 ply of the same grist.

It's a very firm very dense fabric, but as it's all wool it's got a decent drape to it.

I think you'll lose some of the character of the pattern if you go to too fine a yarn. Palette is pretty much double the yardage, so it's too fine. You'll end up with a sweater that won't be very warm and IIRC, warmth is one of your criteria for choosing this style of sweater.

The other thing is sizing. If you were to get 8st/in instead of 9st/in, could you knit a smaller size and still end up with a garment that fits?

Try it on US#3 needles. According to my handy-dandy multilingual needle gauge, 3mm does not translate exactly to a US size. US#2 = 2.75mm and US#3 = 3.25mm.

So, my recommendation: go with the Gloss, and if you're getting slightly over gauge on US#3 go down a size -- it's not a very fitted sweater, so a little more or less ease won't hurt :D
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From:fiberaddict
Date:January 10th, 2010 06:59 pm (UTC)
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Thank you! The Gloss is the closest thing I found to the original yarn, and the silk content doesn't hurt. :grin:

I've been stuck on Ravelry's St*rmore groups, reading....most people say the original yarn IS a DK weight, not the Sport that so many people substitute.

The thing about Marg. Tudor...it's knit in strips: the thistles are separate from the roses. Sizing shouldn't be a problem - I measured myself last night, and am firmly in the Medium range (on the cusp for the bust size, and 1/2" larger in the..hips. The Large, however, would be TOO big. So...:lol: I figure, if the gauge is off I can always add stitches to the sides and fudge the sleeves to fit. (AS is KNOWN for her massive amount of ease. I think I'll be OK even at 8 sts/inch..but I'll aim for 9.)

I'm thinking the rose panels will be white (or dove gray, if I can find/dye some) and the rest of the sweater will be cranberry. I like the slashing effect...I just wish the designer had done it "right". :lol: I figure, I'll buy the 3200 yards of cranberry (original sweater calls for 13 balls...but I've heard the yardage is...OFF.), and get about 1000 yards of white. Yes, I'll have leftovers....but I'd MUCH rather have that problem than run out of yarn mid-sleeve. Once I finish the never-ending cardigan, I'll be ready to jump in on *my* sweater. :grin:
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From:hugh_mannity
Date:January 10th, 2010 07:14 pm (UTC)
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With the leftovers you can make a matching hat! Or mittens. Or both :D
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