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Seems Snips is just about out. Last week, she ate one of Himself's Bionicles (Lego-type thing). Sweet Geek said "Well, you shouldn't have left it on the floor!" When I pointed out that it was on HIS floor, in his room, he was told "Well, then you should have left the door shut. It's not her fault!"

Fast forward to this AM. We had finished milking, I had processed the milk, and was in the bathroom getting in my work duds. I hear Sweet Geek come in, and snarl "SNIPS." I go to the bedroom, and he is smacking her with his (almost brand new) Reebok. :snicker:

"How can I convince them you're a good dog when you do stuff like this?" :whack: I sweetly said "Well, you did leave it on the floor...."...which got me a dirty look.

Hey - pardon the pun, but if the shoe fits.......

I have been nagging him for the past month about the training he promised. He just "never has the money". I've offered to pay for it (I'm trying to be nice, here - I want her gone, but I did say I'd give her a chance.......), and was told no, it's HIS responsibility.

When she ate Himself's Bionicle, I said I would pay - and, again, was told no. He just couldn't afford it. He got mad at me when I said "Well, we could sure afford to buy *your* 3 goats, huh?"...but hey - what's more important? Keeping this (stupid, stupid) dumped dog, or buying yet more goats?

I informed his this morning that *I* was paying for the training (no, I really can't afford it...but I can't afford her tearing anything else up, either - she's already eaten part of the sofa, and some of my shoes, and Himself's toys, and one of Herself's origami creations; if I put my foot down and order her gone he'll never forgive me. Don't ask....he gets pissed when I (gently!) remind him that he promised to get her training.) and.....gee, he's lost the number and can't remember the guy's name. Right.

I know what it is - he KNOWS she's going to fail. *I* know she's going to fail - she can't learn. She jumps the fence, and no amount of tossing her back over is getting the point across. She chews stuff - and nothing you do makes her stop (Yes, I've picked stuff up to get it out of her way...that's when she chewed up the back of the sofa. She's even JUMPED ON THE KITCHEN TABLE to get to stuff....). She's NOT a puppy - so you can't fall back on the "Well, puppies chew, you know." He doesn't want to face the fact that this dog is simply NOT worth keeping - OK, if we didn't have kids/goats/horses/other dogs, then maybe...but we do NOT have the time to dog-proof the house, and if something isn't done, she's going to get killed or severely injured. She's already been kicked by Finn - and she STILL goes in and chases the horses! She's been head-butted into the side of the barn numerous times, and she STILL goes in and snaps at the goats. Jumping the fence - that's no longer an annoyance; that's dangerous - she was down the street last night when we came home after dinner. She's gonna get hit by a car if she keeps it up.

Yes, she's a "working dog". I get that. But.....this is the first dog I've ever had that simply will. NOT. learn. My Border Collie? I'd tell her something 1x, and she had it. My Red Heeler? Same thing - only she didn't need to be punished - I could tell her "Leave the horse alone!" and she'd never bother it again. My Aussie? Stupid dog - but he'd "get it" after the first or second time. Snips? STILL does the same things she did when we first brought her home. :sigh:

So, I get to be broke this month. :shrug: It needs to be done....but honestly? I don't think it's going to do any good. I really think she's mentally-challenged...but proving it? :sigh: I agreed to giving her 2 rounds of training before demanding her be re-homed. If she fails this one, I'm going to give him an ultimatum. *I* can't afford 2 rounds of training(I think it was $300/6 week session)...and I know *he* won't pay for it (because, say it with me, I "can't afford it right now!". Yeah. *IF* it were important to him, he'd find the money. So....)

Anyway, that's the State of the Fiberaddict at the moment. We may soon be down to 2 dogs again.....I hate that, but I can't keep a demon-dog here. I can't afford to have one of my productive animals hurt because she can't learn. (She's been running the dairy does, trying to nip them. The Cashmere's don't put up with it (you'd think being rammed into the barn would tell her something, but no); the Nubians are so loopy they run from her, which makes things worse. The Alpine doe hates her, but the kids are scared...which also doesn't help.) I'm sorry, but my goats are worth more than she is....and we *need* them.
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Date:May 28th, 2010 02:13 pm (UTC)
we have stupid dogs. And that is why they are in their own secure yard. Outside 24/7.
We have had dogs that were inside in the past that I trained, but it is the human that needs to make the commitment, and it is a lot of work.
If I had the extra hours I could take the dogs from being outside dogs to inside dogs in 30 days.
The worst part in your situation is that the dog already has all of these self reinforced naughty behaviors. Any dog trainer is going to say she needs a crate and long walks on a leash. And every time she is not in the crate she needs a babysittter that is going to watch her like a hawk - play with her with toys that she is allowed and make sure she doesn't even *start* bad behavior - With the right level of commitment from the human in charge the dog will NOT fail. Most of the training is for the human not the animal. Once the training begins every failure sits with the human in charge. The only exception is with a violent dog.
If a dog is actually retarded then you need to treat them like a retarded person and not let them do anything unsupervised. And your honey needs to consider if he really wants to invest a huge chunk of his time and energy into a special neeeds animal.

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Date:May 28th, 2010 02:39 pm (UTC)
She was dumped for a reason...and I think it's because she's mentally-challenged. :sigh:

We've tried the crate...didn't work - she ATE part of the crate. She won't stay in the yard - she's over the fence in a heartbeat. I can't lock her in the bathroom - she'll eat the door.

This is the first dog I've ever had that simply will not learn. And yes, training is more for the human...but in this case? I don't think it's going to work. He (Sweet Geek) lets her jump up on him (BAD!), he "baby talks" her - even when he's mad at her! (BAD!!), and...it's a mess. He can't get over the "pain" of her being dumped.....even with proof of *why* she was (probably) dumped. :sigh:

It's gonna get fun.......
Date:May 28th, 2010 02:49 pm (UTC)
Maybe you should see how much it would be for a real dog trainer (Not Petsmart Yahoos)to come to your home for a consultation. Maybe if they gave a professional opinion on the dogs likelihood for success it would have more impact.
Or maybe she could be re-homed with someone who is learning dog training and needs a challenging animal to learn with. Would he be upset at the idea of "re-homing"? You could put an ad on craigslist -
"Win a $100 and a free dog! If you can train her to be good and prove it - we will reward you with $100 plus a lifelong companion!"
Rules are they keep the dog for 30 days and train it to be good, if they can't you take the dog back and they don't win the $100 prize. At least you have a month of her out of the house. And $100 to buy her a really sturdy crate. Just a thought.
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Date:May 28th, 2010 06:19 pm (UTC)
Yeah - that's what we had planned. The trainer he had the number for is a professional that will either give you one hour a week for 6 weeks, OR will take the dog in his kennel for 6 weeks (at much more $$$, of course!). I don't mind either way.....but SOMETHING has to be done.
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