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and it's only just started! (BTW Anna - it was 54* this AM, with a high in the low 70's. How's you feel about our weather now? :lol:)

Office "party" today. We get to go to the :sniff: Petroleum Club. :sniff: Aren't we swanky? :rolls eyes: It's alright...but I'd rather go to the Mercury or even the Country Club. (I don't like all the pretentious stuffs at the Petroleum Club. It's too.....overdone.)

Still thinking about Ali's post.....see, one thing on the link she provided (to a FFOZ blog) - the guy said that scholarly papers don't have an agenda. Well, he's wrong - EVERY paper, excuse me, every MEDIA has an agenda. It's up to the reader to figure out what it is.

When I write, I mostly write for me...so there's lots of personal stuff that's probably boring to other people. Stuff like this...I write it to get my thoughts in order. My agenda? Hmmm...not necessarily to force people to think like I do, but....I want my POV stated. It's the same thing with scholarly papers - the whole point of writing it is to say "This is How It Is, and You Should Agree With Me because..."

Fiction is a good example of this. I had to quit reading Mercedes Lackey a while back because her agenda - her message/moral if you will - was getting in the way of the story. I ignored it in her Mage Herald series (I can deal with gay characters as long as you don't go out of your way to rub my face in it. She walked a fine line there.) but I couldn't ignore her environmental bashing in her "Sacred Ground" (I think that's the name). It got to the point she was bashing the reader over the head with "White people suck, Native Americans rule!" (The message wasn't that bad....but almost. :sigh: It interfered with the story.)

Liz Curtis Higgs is one of my favorite Christian writers. Yes, she has a message, and it's obvious - but she doesn't let it get in the way of the STORY. Her characters are 3-D, they have faults, and she doesn't wave the "I'm Saved!" brush over them - they STILL have faults! They still make stupid decisions - they're human. (Her message is usually Grace....and she doesn't bash you over the head with it.)

TV and movies are the same, only more in-your-face about it. It's at the point I don't watch much TV OR movies anymore, because I'm tired of being manipulated. (Even PBS, which I do watch, has an agenda. For fun, I try to figure out what it is. :grin: NOVA is pretty good, and not too biased...some of the documentaries, though...:whew:)

The point is, you can't say that "I only used scholarly papers to back up my idea, because they're not biased!"...because you'd be wrong. For every scholarly paper you find to prove your point, I can probably find one to DISprove it....sometimes using the same "proof". (It's fun sometimes to read the chrischun sites, because detractors can come in and use the same verses to prove the "expert" wrong. Maybe I've just got a warped sense of humor....it's usually because both parties only use the parts of the verses that "prove" thier point...which you can't do.)

I don't know where I'm going with this, but it's been rattling around in my head and I needed to get it out. Now it can rattle around in YOUR heads. :lol:
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From:hugh_mannity
Date:December 15th, 2010 03:28 pm (UTC)
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Yep. Everyone has an agenda. The trick is to figure it out and then see how what they say stacks up in the light of whatever internal bias they have.

Sometimes it gets interesting -- I've read pieces that seemed to have a very obvious agenda, only to realise that there was a whole nother layer to what they were saying.
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From:fiberaddict
Date:December 15th, 2010 03:32 pm (UTC)
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Yes, sometimes, to quote Dr. Horrible "It's like Pie. There's a 3rd, deeper level" (but he finishes it with "just like the first" :lol:)

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From:Ali Snowdale
Date:December 15th, 2010 04:24 pm (UTC)
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My agenda is to throw crazy stuff out there and see which of my very intelligent friends says : That is completely ludicrous, you need to run in the other direction. Or which ones say - that is interesting. Or which ones say - I have been thinking about that too and here is what I have: (fill in the blank)

Also to keep track of where I was so I don't go back through stuff again and again.
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From:fiberaddict
Date:December 15th, 2010 04:29 pm (UTC)
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:giggle: That's a good point - sometimes I do the same!
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Date:December 15th, 2010 05:15 pm (UTC)
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ROFLMBO.

I quit reading Lackey because she started painting every Christian in her books as either stupid and mislead or an evil hypocrite. LOVED her before that, she was my fav.

POV much? Oh well.

- Hearth
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From:Anna Marie
Date:December 16th, 2010 02:44 pm (UTC)

Wow

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That *is* crazy weather. It's still 19 degrees, here. Only it don't matter, because I'm not going outside for another EIGHT days.

Everyone has an agenda. Regardless of what they tell you. :)
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From:fiberaddict
Date:December 16th, 2010 02:53 pm (UTC)

Re: Wow

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It hit 72* yesterday afternoon...and it was 43* this AM. It's only supposed to hit 57* today. We'll see......
(spin a yarn)
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